Back in July of 2012 I published an article concerning a news letter I received from Jack Van Impe. In his news letter he made the statement that the elect in Matthew 24 wasn't the Christians. Here is his actual words:
“Post-tribulationist (those who believe the Church of Jesus Christ will endure the terrible period of the Tribulation) like to use this verse-“Except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened” (Matthew 24:22)-saying this passage proves the Church will remain on earth because we are the “elect.” Nothing could be further from the truth. Many do not realize that God has two elect groups on earth. There is the Church (see Ephesians 1:4, 1 Peter 1:2), but that is not the group referred to in Matthew 24:22. How do I know this? Isaiah 42:1 speaks of the Jews as God’s elect. (Jack Van Impe).”
It seems after exactly a year has past Jack has changed his mind and is now saying the elect in Matthew 24 ARE the Christians. What do we do with that Jack?
“Post-tribulationist (those who believe the Church of Jesus Christ will endure the terrible period of the Tribulation) like to use this verse-“Except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened” (Matthew 24:22)-saying this passage proves the Church will remain on earth because we are the “elect.” Nothing could be further from the truth. Many do not realize that God has two elect groups on earth. There is the Church (see Ephesians 1:4, 1 Peter 1:2), but that is not the group referred to in Matthew 24:22. How do I know this? Isaiah 42:1 speaks of the Jews as God’s elect. (Jack Van Impe).”
It seems after exactly a year has past Jack has changed his mind and is now saying the elect in Matthew 24 ARE the Christians. What do we do with that Jack?
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The idea that the elect in Matthew 24 is not Christians is one of those things pre-trib people say to back up their belief and now Jack has gone a thrown a wrench in it!
6 comments:
Gail,
I used to watch JVI many years ago on GOD TV, and was at the time impressed with his memorisation of the Scriptures.
Subsequently I learnt his eschatology was errant.
He is sending a confusing message-would you buy a second hand auto of him?
Colin, I may be a little to late but no I wouldn't buy a used car from him. I don't even think I would let him give me a car lol.
But he was good in 'Mary Poppins'.
Lol!
Sorry, that was Dick van Dyke. Confused dot com.
Evangelicals Use Occult Deception !
Heard of the coming blood moons? Is the pretrib rapture symbolized by anything in the heavens?
Hal Lindsey, influenced by occult astrology, asserts on p. 124 in "The Late Great Planet Earth" that the famous Sphinx in Egypt has the head of a "woman" - even though encyclopedias say it's the head of a "man"! Hal's plagiarism on that page of a 19th century British theologian is his acceptance of the occult Virgo-to-Leo theory - a "Christian" zodiac arbitrarily starting with Virgo (Virgin Mary) and ending with Leo (Christ returning as "Lion," Rev. 5:5).
Those who swallow this guesswork often see Ursa Minor (part of Cancer which precedes Leo) as a heavenly "symbol" of a pretrib rapture!
Pretribs also insist on separating the "church" from "Israel" - but when you aren't looking (or thinking) they blithely "prove" pretrib by the Jewish feasts in Leviticus, the stages of a Hebrew wedding (Google "Pretrib Rapture: A Staged Event"), and the one "taken" and the other "left" in "Jewish" Matthew 24!
Amazingly, Jewishness (and even anti-Jewishness) has been uncovered even in pretrib dispensationalism's 19th century foundation (Google "Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism")!
The current "blood moons" craze (promoted by lunar persons including rock musician Scottie Clarke and John Hagee) is tied to - you guessed it - the same Jewish feast days.
Yes, there's something colored red in the future of the church, but I don't have moons in mind. What will really turn red will be the collective faces of many when it finally dawns on them that their any-moment fly-away was nothing more than an end time hoax!
/ above seen on the web. Tim /
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